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What could this mystery LEGO box be?

by admin on August 3, 2017

in LEGO Exclusives

A couple of days ago, LEGO tweeted an image of a mysterious box with the caption, “The London Bus comes in a box that is over 20,000 cm³ but something BIGGER is coming… 4.86 times bigger, to be exact!” As you can imagine, the online LEGO community has been abuzz ever since, with speculations about what the set can be. So, let’s talk about this. 🙂

In regards to the box size, the recently released #10258 LEGO Creator London Bus comes in a box that is 20,064 cm³ (48x38x11cm), which LEGO rounded down to 20,000 cm³. According to the tweet, the mystery set is 97,200 cm³ (20,000 x 4.86). That’s a box size of 48x45x45 cm (if it is square-ish like on the picture), or about 19x18x18 inches! That’s absolutely massive! To give you another comparison, the #75827 LEGO Ghostbusters Firehouse Headquarters, which is one of the largest LEGO boxes ever made, is 58×48.5×18.5 cm, or 52,040 cm³. The mystery box is almost twice as large! Did I say it’s going to be big? Yeah, very big! 😀

Of course, the main question is, what’s in the box? There are a number of reasonable suggestions by LEGO fans, like a very large LEGO Technic set to commemorate the 40th anniversary of the theme, or a sizable LEGO Creator set (new LEGO Modular Building, new LEGO Winter Village set, or replica of a historical/real life building, etc.). Some people are also hoping for a LEGO Lord of the Rings Minas Tirith, or a new LEGO Harry Potter Hogwarts Castle, or even just a generic LEGO Castle. All of these are still possibilities, however, there is one candidate that seems to have the most credibility and consistent rumors around it…

Rumors have been circulating since as far back as 2014 of a new and updated LEGO Star Wars Ultimate Collector Series Millennium Falcon. The highly coveted #10179 LEGO Ultimate Collector Series Millennium Falcon (pictured above) was released ten years ago to commemorate the 30th anniversary of LEGO Star Wars. The set was 5,197 pieces, with an original price of $499.99. It is one of the largest LEGO Star Wars sets ever released, and one of the largest LEGO sets up to date. Since it was retired, it has been selling on the secondary market for around $3,000.

Comparing box sizes again, the #10179 LEGO Star Wars Millennium Falcon came in a 64x48x20 cm box, which adds up to 61,440 cm³. If you are familiar with that set and know how massive it is, seeing that the mystery set is even larger is hard to comprehend. However, it does make sense to release a very large set for the 40th anniversary of LEGO Star Wars, and fans have been asking for a remake of the LEGO Star Wars UCS Millennium Falcon, so it’s quite possible.

LEGO fans who are savvy with Photoshop have been playing around with the image of the white box to see if they can find any clues. It turns out that the white cover is indeed over a regular LEGO box, and you can make out some of the graphics underneath. And, it appears that turning the box upside down, and adjusting colors and saturation, reveals the LEGO logo, as well as what looks like the outline of the Millennium Falcon’s cockpit and some other bits. Pretty smart, isn’t it?

On the other hand, it is surprising that the normally very prominent Star Wars logo and Disney logo don’t show up on the box, even on enhanced images. Plus, when you look at manipulated images like this long enough, you can pretty much start to see anything in the strange shapes and shadows (see the large version of the image here, if you want to do some box gazing). However, most LEGO fans seem to be coming to the conclusion that this must be the new LEGO Star Wars Ultimate Collector Series Millennium Falcon, or at least there is a great hope. There is even a set number in the Brickset database that seems to fit this theory. #75192 has been allocated to a LEGO Star Wars Ultimate Collector Series set for quite some time now, but there have been no updates on what it might be.

In addition, Brickset members discovered that LEGO designer Hans Burkhard Schlömer made a curious little note on one of the recent LEGO Star Wars sets he worked on. He writes on the #75182 LEGO Star Wars Republic Fighter Tank: “Clones need a ride too! I did this set as a quick side-project while working on a much, much, much, much, much, much larger set, which is going to be announced on September 1st, 2017.” Of course, this could mean any large set, however, Hans is known to work on large LEGO Star Wars sets, including LEGO Star Wars Ultimate Collector Series releases (see the sets he worked on here).

Putting all of this together, it does seem plausible that the mystery box is that of the #75192 LEGO Star Wars Ultimate Collector Series Millennium Falcon, although we will have to wait for further confirmation from LEGO (or leakers) to be sure. If this is indeed the Falcon, it will be revealed on September 1st (also known as Star Wars Force Friday – another clue), and released on October 1st, with early access to LEGO VIP members on September 14th (along with another mystery set that hasn’t been announced yet – source, September LEGO Store Calendar). And LEGO may also continue teasing fans with further clues before the official press-release.

Whatever the set may be, we know for sure that the box is going to be big, which of course also means lots of pieces. While there have been no clues about the actual piece-count, rumors put it at around 7,500 pieces – indicating, again, that the set is massive. If the set turns out to be the Falcon, LEGO Star Wars fans are hoping for a more detailed interior than the previous release, using greebling techniques with small pieces to mimic the mechanics of the ship, along with lots of fun nooks, corners, and hiding places. The price of the set is not known either, but various sources put it at around $800, which would make this the largest and most expensive LEGO set of all time.

What do you think of all of this? What’s in the box in your opinion? Is it the Falcon, or something else? Feel free to share your thoughts and discuss in the comment section below! 😉

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Professor Bunny August 3, 2017 at 10:14 AM

Imagine if they did a video taking off the paper, and underneath was an underwhelming polybag set in a massively oversized box!
Seriously, though, it does seem likely to be a new UCS Falcon. Personally, I would prefer a new UCS Y-wing, although maybe not of that size (and price).

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admin August 3, 2017 at 12:54 PM

LOL! That would be too funny, but too many people would take it too seriously and get a heart attack! 😈

I’m also leaning toward believing it’s the Falcon, although I won’t put all my money on it. 😀

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brickmaster August 3, 2017 at 11:40 AM

But why do they have the box upside down? Was that to throw off people with the underlying image? Why even put a real box under the wrap? They could just have used a plain white box so no images could be detected. Very clever though. I think it will be the Falcon.

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admin August 3, 2017 at 12:53 PM

Those are good questions. People believe that LEGO used a read box, so give something for LEGO fans to work on and speculate about. As far as why the box is upside down, it will likely have a handle on top, so they maybe didn’t want to show that.

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DavidH August 3, 2017 at 11:46 AM

It seems like most people agree it’s the Falcon. I do see the cockpit, but frankly, I also see BB8 in the upper right, which doesn’t seem to make sense. Also, the Star Wars logo missing is a pretty big deal, and it should definitely have been visible. But who am I to question?

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Håkan August 3, 2017 at 11:49 AM

Well, both BB-8 and Millennium Falcon feature in the new trilogy.

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admin August 3, 2017 at 12:52 PM

Yeah, the Star Wars logo not showing up is a concern for those who believe this is the Falcon. I mean it’s a huge logo, and it’s white, so it should have shown up on the altered image.

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BLProductions August 3, 2017 at 2:44 PM

As a UCS set, the logo would actually be gold. I don’t know how that would affect its visibility, though. I think it’s possible they’ve altered the box art from the standard form to make it more special. Many of the old UCS Star Wars sets (before 2006) had the logo on the right side or in the middle of the box. So perhaps the logo is situated as it is on the Death Star II’s box. Also, the recent UCS sets don’t have that top banner where the logo normally resides, so the visible presence of one on this mystery box is odd. 😕

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admin August 3, 2017 at 2:57 PM

Yeah, there is clearly a band on the box which could either be the top or bottom, depending on how you look at it. If we agree that the box is upside down, than the band is on top, which, as you said, would be unusual for an UCS set. However, it is also still possible that the band is at the bottom, like on many sets, where usually the minifigs are displayed. But, of course, if we go this direction, that the Falcon theory falls apart, as what we see as the cockpit must be something else. 🙄

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BLProductions August 3, 2017 at 4:12 PM

It doesn’t make sense for the band to be on the bottom of the box, because then the LEGO logo is upside down. Also, I don’t recall any sets that have a band that large around the bottom of a box, and, as far as I can see, no minifigs are displayed on this one. So I’m pretty sure this band is on the top part of the box.
The cockpit everyone’s seeing is almost guaranteed to belong to a Falcon, but maybe said Falcon is midi-scale, and is part of a new UCS Cloud City set that everyone wants….

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admin August 3, 2017 at 4:26 PM

That’s true about the band. While I have heard others talking about a possible Cloud City setting, I don’t think that’s going to be the case. It would tie the set too much to the original trilogy.

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Sith015 August 3, 2017 at 11:50 AM

With the box in the upside position, I see Lloyd in the corner, like on the other Ninjago movie boxes. But I see Ninjago in everything! 😀

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admin August 3, 2017 at 12:51 PM

I actually kind of see that too. But I have been staring at the image for too long already, so if you tell me you are seeing cats, I will probably see them too. 😀

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LegoTrek August 13, 2017 at 6:28 PM

But I DO see cats!

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admin August 13, 2017 at 6:42 PM

You have been staring at the picture for too long. 😉

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Tony August 3, 2017 at 11:54 AM

It’s next to a creator set. Why would they put the box next to a creator set, if it is star wars? That doesn’t make sense. I think it will be a large creator set like the Taj Mahal. Or maybe something else from London, like the London eye, or whatever its called?

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admin August 3, 2017 at 12:50 PM

Using a Star Wars set for comparison would have been too obvious. Especially if this is the Falcon. 😉

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LEGOJeff August 3, 2017 at 12:17 PM

I think it’s the Falcon. Nothing else makes sense to be so big. Or maybe another large Star Wars set, but I can’t think of anything else that’s as iconic and as big as the Falcon.

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LegoMaster99 August 3, 2017 at 12:42 PM
admin August 3, 2017 at 12:49 PM

That was an April Fools joke back on April 1st. It’s the old Falcon photoshopped together with new minifigs. 😉

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LegoMaster99 August 3, 2017 at 12:43 PM

I have found a leaked image on imgur!

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jabber-baby-wocky August 3, 2017 at 1:14 PM

Very interesting teaser! Looks like LEGO is having fun on social media. Which version of the Falcon is this rumored to be? The one from the original trilogy, or the new films? There are some differences.

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BLProductions August 3, 2017 at 2:20 PM

Actually, the rumors are that the new Falcon will contain minifigures and accessories from both trilogies, including possibly The Last Jedi. So for minifigs we might see young Han, Luke, Leia, Ben Kenobi, R2, and C-3P0, but we could also see alongside them old Han, Rey, Finn, and BB-8. It’s highly probably that we will get interchangeable radar dishes, one circular and one rectangular, as well. There could be other bits to change around, but I find that somewhat unlikely.

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admin August 3, 2017 at 2:38 PM

I was reading they might include two radar dishes. One round one for the original films, and a rectangular one for the new ones. That would be nice! 😀

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legoed19 August 3, 2017 at 1:50 PM

I think it’s a UCS Millennium Falcon, made out of Duplo! That will give LEGO fans a big dilemma!

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admin August 3, 2017 at 2:39 PM

Well, that would be awesome! I always wanted a DUPLO spaceship! 😀

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legoed19 August 3, 2017 at 5:30 PM

Can you imagine? It would be super awesome!

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Håkan August 3, 2017 at 5:32 PM

It’s hard to do SNOT building in Duplo, though.

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admin August 3, 2017 at 11:15 PM

DUPLO actually does have a few SNOT parts. Not too many, but you can build some interesting things. Although I don’t talk about it often, I’m a big DUPLO fan. 😀

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legoed19 August 4, 2017 at 2:09 AM

Ooh, would be interested in a few articles about the parts we’re taking about and what others have made with them.

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admin August 4, 2017 at 8:56 AM

In all my years being involved in the hobby, I have only seen two models incorporate a Galidor part. They are simply not compatible with regular LEGO. 😕

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Håkan August 4, 2017 at 9:46 AM

Some of the heads could function with more Bionicle/ Constraction-like models, but most of the parts are quite hard to incorporate seamlessly.

https://www.bricklink.com/catalogList.asp?v=1&pg=1&catString=444&catType=P

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admin August 4, 2017 at 12:36 PM

I always really liked that beautiful armor piece (second on the list you linked to). It’s so intricately detailed. The only Galidor piece I actually like. Unfortunately it can’t really be used with anything, but it’s still pretty.

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Legostuff71 August 3, 2017 at 2:56 PM

Wow! It’s Amazing how LEGO can torment us and probably enjoys doing it too. It also show how obsessed we are. I know it’s step one on admitting you have problem , but, I am still not getting any help for it. ” help Obi wan you’re my only hope”.

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admin August 3, 2017 at 3:03 PM

Obi-Wan can’t help. He is a ghost. He can only hover over you with a knowing smile, and maybe whisper something in your ears. But it’s always hard to tell if it’s him, or your mind playing tricks on you. 🙄

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RONNY August 3, 2017 at 3:13 PM

“It is one of the largest LEGO Star Wars sets ever released”
No…
“It is THE largest LEGO Star Wars sets ever released”

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admin August 3, 2017 at 4:18 PM

True, but I didn’t want to exclude all the other largest Star Wars sets that are definitely worthy of mention. 😀

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BLProductions August 3, 2017 at 3:49 PM

I personally wouldn’t mind if it was Minas Tirith, except that at $800 I’d never be able to get it. It’s possible that it’s a large Creator set, but I’m about 94.6% sure it is a new UCS Falcon. The cockpit is pretty clearly defined on the box, and we know the proper orientation of the box thanks to the LEGO logo. Then again….
It’s possible LEGO made a collage of random images and pasted it on the front of the box under the white paper just to confuse us, which would explain how people are seeing so many different things, and why the top banner is there but the Star Wars logo isn’t. I also note the banner has some bluish splotches near the right end of it, which might belong to the 2017 Star Wars box artwork. I don’t see why a UCS set would have that artwork, which further suggests this isn’t the real box. But this is merely speculation. I can’t believe we have to wait a month for the reveal…. 😕
Also: https://brickset.com/article/29689/lego-ideas-third-2016-review-results Interesting first choice, as the project to my knowledge has no playability and seems fragile. Voltron is nice, but not interesting to me.

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admin August 3, 2017 at 4:22 PM

If LEGO just put some random bits and pieces of images under the wrap to confuse us, LEGO fans definitely underestimated their cleverness! We will talk about the Ideas sets tomorrow, so hold your thoughts. I’m always interested to hear your opinion, as you often mention things I haven’t thought of. 🙂

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Legostuff71 August 3, 2017 at 4:15 PM

… And Obi wan would say we are the weak minded and can lead us to the dark side . We must be cautious.

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admin August 3, 2017 at 4:27 PM

Yeah, that too… 😈

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DB PRODUCTIONS August 3, 2017 at 5:38 PM

I thought that Lego might’ve just put a picture of the Millennium Falcon on the paper and hidden a disappointing set underneath (like a UCS friends set). But I’m pretty sure that its the Falcon. I won’t get it of course, because if I had that much money… 42054 comes to mind. 🙂

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Professor Bunny August 3, 2017 at 5:42 PM

You want disappointing? Try a UCS Galidor set. Now THAT would be disappointing.

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admin August 3, 2017 at 11:17 PM

I would actually like to see an UCS Friends set! Even better, a LEGO Elves set! And yeah, whatever it is, it’s going to be crazy money! 🙄

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DB PRODUCTIONS August 3, 2017 at 5:46 PM

I have no idea what galidor is. but I bet it would have some cool parts. ;D

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admin August 3, 2017 at 11:18 PM

The first rule of LEGO Galidor is that we don’t talk about LEGO Galidor… like, ever… That’s why you probably never heard of it. Trust me, it’s better that way. 😈

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Håkan August 4, 2017 at 5:59 AM

It had, but most weren’t compatible with Lego. 😉

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gid617 August 4, 2017 at 5:12 PM

I have to say, reading all the speculation has been pretty funny! 😛 I’m impressed that anyone can see the Falcon, or anything else, under a white sheet in a picture. 😀 Not being into SW at all, I don’t really care if it’s the Falcon or not, and in any case, it’s sure to be far beyond my price range, but I am enjoying all the different theories. hahaha 😉

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admin August 4, 2017 at 10:44 PM

Yeah, I was also really surprised by all the photo shopping and theories. I saw the original image quite early, before it was posted on all the different forums, and it didn’t even come to my mind to try to look under the white sheet! 😀

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