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Glued magnet minifig removal!

by admin on January 1, 2011

in Magnets & Keychains

LEGO magnet-sets have been a wonderful way to acquire minifigs without having to buy a whole expensive set. Unfortunately the good times are over. From 2011 all magnet sets are being glued! :(

The minifig’s legs are glued to the magnet base. In addition, the torso/legs assembly is glued to the torso. The minifig’s heads are removable from the torso, and any crown, hair or other headgear is also removable. Weapons and other accessories are separate and removable. Because the figs are glued to the magnet-base they are no longer useful for much more than as refrigerator décor.

The LEGO Ambassador for Bricklink contacted LEGO about this and she received the following reply from a LEGO-rep:

“All Extended Line minifigure magnet sets will as of Jan 1st 2011 be glued.
Based on new requirements, the magnet base and the minifigures will have to be permanently fixed together on LEGO Star Wars magnet sets.

To ensure a consistent consumer experience across all LEGO minifigure magnet sets we have chosen to permanently fix the minifigure to the magnet base on all magnet sets moving forward from Jan 1st 2011 (incl. Pharaoh’s Quest launching Dec 1st).

This decision has been carefully considered and was not taken easily as we know that many consumers will obviously not like this change.”

Of course LEGO-fans are not at all happy about this change and have been trying to rescue their figs from their magnet shackles. So far I have seen people trying to pry off figs with a hobby-knife or chisel. This method will separate the minifig from the magnet base, but unfortunately it also tends to break the back of the legs.

I decided to spend a bit of time myself trying to find a solution that is both safe for the minifig and the person using the method. (Please read our Tutorials Disclaimer for your safety here.) I will start with the process that I found working, and below that I will list my failed attempts for your further amusement (and horror!). ;)

1. THE HOT WATER PROCESS (this works!):
Originally I thought LEGO is using some kind of strong glue, like Superglue, and tried methods that I knew could work for glue. However none of these worked. (See failed attempts.) Then I did a little research on the methods LEGO used to glue parts.

I have discovered that LEGO is not using glue at all, but a solvent, that actually loosens the surface of the ABS plastic and allows the molecules to combine. Once the solvent evaporates, it leaves behind a cleanly fused surface with no residue at all.

Reading further on the subject, I found that LEGO has been using two types of solvents. One is called MEK (methyl-ethyl-ketone) and at some point they switched to GBL (gamma-butyrolactone). I’m no chemist, so I had no idea what these are, but I read that both of them are water soluble at certain temperatures. So, I thought to try loosening the seal between the minifig and the magnet by hot water.

The challenge is that ABS plastic itself has a melting point, which is 176 Fahrenheit (80 Celsius). So, I had to make sure I don’t cross over that temperature.

TOOLS NEEDED:
• Stove
• Medium size pot with water (for heating)
• Strainer
• Cooking Thermometer
• Cold water (for cooling)
• Watch (for measuring time)
• Kitchen mitts or cloth (to keep your hands from burning)

PREPARE MINIFIG:
Remove minifig accessories (tools/weapons, headgear and head)
Bend minifig at the waist so it is in a sitting position (this gives the best angle for the hot bath, and also helps to lift it out of the water)
Lift minifigs hands up, like it is reaching out for something (this also assures the correct angle)

PROCESS:
1. Fill pot with water
2. Place strainer on top of the pot
3. Make sure the water level is above the strainer by about an inch
4. Place Cooking Thermometer in pot
5. Heat water to 160 Fahrenheit (71 Celsius) (I found this to be a perfect temperature for the process. Not too hot to damage the plastic, but hot enough to loosen the seal.)
6. Turn off heat (if you have an electric stove, it is best to take the pot off the burner)
7. Place minifig in hot water and leave it there for 5 minutes
8. Remove minifig from hot water (just grabbing it by the neck-stud works great; the water is really not that hot)
9. Hold minifig/magnet assembly in kitchen-mitts with one hand and bend the torso straight back as much as you can (but gently!) to see if the seal is starting to loosen. WARNING! Do not try to wiggle the torso left and right! This will loosen the leg-pins and you will have a fig with very loose legs! ONLY bend the torso straight back!
10. As you bend the torso backwards against the extension plate on the magnet you will see the seal getting loose. At this point the fig may pop right off.
11. If it doesn’t, DO NOT force the fig to come off! Just put it back in the hot water and leave it there for another couple of minutes.
12. Take the fig out again and bend the torso backwards. By this time the fig should either pop right off, or the seal should be very loose.
13. If the fig doesn’t pop off, but the seal is very loose, gently insert a kitchen-knife in the gap between the back of the fig’s legs and the magnet-base. (The fig is fused ONLY at the back of the legs to the studs on the magnet. NOT at the bottom of the feet.)
14. Once the fig is off, run it under cold water to cool it off. WARNING! Don’t move the legs and arms until the fig is completely cooled! You can damage the joints and they will become very loose!
15. DONE! :)

NOTES:
• This method DOES NOT damage the plastic, as we are staying below its melting point. It also won’t damage the print on the minifig.
• Once the minifig is off, on the back of the legs you will see where the fig was fused to the magnet is kind of rough. There is not much we can do about that. But at least we have rescued the minifig from its bondage! (I would not recommend sanding this area to smooth it as I have read that the fusing process makes the ABS plastic more brittle. The back of the legs are already very thin, so smoothing them down may weaken them further.)
• This process may also release the bond between the torso and the leg-assembly. On one of my figs the torso just slipped right off. On another it became loose but didn’t fully come off. I didn’t want to push my luck. ;)

NOW THE HORROR STORIES FOR YOUR EDUCATION AND AMUSEMENT! (In each method listed below I note the process, time elapsed, and the result.)

2. THE GOO-GONE PROCESS (fail!):
Method: full immersion
Temperature: normal room temp.
Time: 1 hour
Results: NONE
Adverse effects on plastic: NONE VISIBLE
Adverse effects on print: NONE VISIBLE

3. THE VINEGAR PROCESS (fail!):
Method: full immersion
Temperature: normal room temp.
Time: 1 hour
Results: NONE
Adverse effects on plastic: NONE VISIBLE
Adverse effects on print: NONE VISIBLE

4. THE ALCOHOL PROCESS (fail!):
(Isopropyl Alcohol 50% by Volume)
Method: full immersion
Temperature: normal room
Time: 1 hour
Results: NONE
Adverse effects on plastic: NONE VISIBLE
Adverse effects on print: NONE VISIBLE

5. THE SOAPY WATER PROCESS (fail!):
Method: full immersion
Temperature: warm water
Time: overnight (8 hours)
Results: NONE
Adverse effects on plastic: NONE VISIBLE
Adverse effects on print: NONE VISIBLE

6. THE MINERAL OIL PROCESS (fail!):
(Baby Oil)
Method: full immersion
Temperature: normal room
Time: 1 hour
Results: NONE
Adverse effects on plastic: NONE VISIBLE
Adverse effects on print: NONE VISIBLE

7. THE LEMON-JUICE PROCESS (fail!):
Method: full immersion
Temperature: normal room
Time: 1 hour
Results: NONE
Adverse effects on plastic: NONE VISIBLE
Adverse effects on print: NONE VISIBLE

8. THE EUCALYPTUS OIL PROCESS (fail!):
Method: full immersion
Temperature: normal room
Time: 1 hour
Results: NONE
Adverse effects on plastic: NONE VISIBLE
Adverse effects on print: NONE VISIBLE

9. THE WD-40 PROCESS (fail!):
Method: full immersion
Temperature: normal room
Time: 1 hour
Results: NONE
Adverse effects on plastic: NONE VISIBLE
Adverse effects on print: NONE VISIBLE

10. THE ACETONE PROCESS (badly fail!):
(Regular Nail Polish Remover by Equate)
Method: full immersion
Temperature: normal room
Results: PLASTIC MELTED, BUT MINIFIG/MAGNET SEAL INTACT
Adverse effects on plastic: MELTED
Adverse effects on print: MELTED/CAME OFF (See below:)

In summary, I would hope that LEGO will come up with another solution besides fusing minifigs to magnets to meet licensing regulations. In the meantime you can give your minifigs a nice hot bath! And if you come up with something better feel free to share it here! Oh, and while you are at it, you may also want to read about removing LEGO minifigs from keychains. ;)

I have also written a guide with a list of all glued and non-glued magnet sets to help shoppers identify them easier.  Read here: Guide to Glued & Non-Glued Magnet Minifigs! Hope this helps! :P

{ 407 comments… read them below or add one }

blopa January 31, 2013 at 10:18 AM

It didn’t worked for me =(((( I tried with the Marvel Super Heroes pack, leave it for 5min. Nothing. Then I heated the water again, leave it for 15min, nothing. Then I use my brutal force and broke part of the leg’s back =(

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admin January 31, 2013 at 10:25 AM

Blopa, the process works, but you do have to be both patient and gentle. Remember; you are dealing with delicate plastic parts. Brute force will only get the parts broken, as you have already experienced. This is especially true if the parts are still warm. Make sure you follow the instructions. Did you use a thermometer to make sure the temperature is correct? Did you immerse the minifigs fully? Did you test the legs every few minutes to see if the seal is starting to get loose? Did you slide a knife (or other thin and strong object) behind the legs to help with popping them off? Again; be patient and gentle and your minifigs will be just fine. ;)

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blopa January 31, 2013 at 2:25 PM

YES! Like you said, I just needed to be patient :D now it worked. Thanks!! Luckly the leg from Magneto which was damaged is regular red, I will change for a new one. Thank you so much :D

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admin January 31, 2013 at 3:54 PM

Glad it worked for ya! :)

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Breygon February 6, 2013 at 2:52 PM

how about for short characters, like Yoda or (in my case) hobbits? their legs can’t be bent back.

also, will this work for keychain mini figures?

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admin February 6, 2013 at 8:22 PM

Breygon, short legs can be removed as well. Instead of bending them back, you can wiggle them a bit and once you see a tiny gap appear insert a thin blade between the torso and legs. The good thing about short legs is that the parts are not as delicate. The bad thing that it does take a little bit more effort to remove them. But it can be done. ;)

As far as keychain minfigs, you mean separating the legs from the torso? You can try, and some of them will come apart right away, and some won’t. It just depends on how the solvent flows thru the parts during the gluing process. If the torso and legs won’t separate after a few minutes of soaking I would not force them as the inside of a minifig’s torso has some very delicate, thin parts that would easily get damaged.

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Wilson February 10, 2013 at 9:59 AM

Man, this solution was awesome.

First I’m a little afraid about the temperature, because I don’t have a thermometer. But I warm the water until boiling and turn off. I wait like 2 minutes and put the figures.

Warm the water above the 80 farenheit maked the plastic be soft. Wait some time until try the procedure. The best for me is using a knife behind the legs and with light gestures of left-right the minifigures go free, without any harm.

Thanks for the water procedure.

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admin February 10, 2013 at 10:52 PM

Wilson, I’m glad it worked for ya! Yeah, without a thermometer one has to be careful not to make the water too hot as it can melt the plastic. It is really best to buy a thermometer; it only costs a couple of $s and readily available at most stores. But I’m glad you were able to follow the procedure even without one. ;)

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Christian Fries February 12, 2013 at 3:12 PM

If you do not have a thermometer at hand, the use 1 part (glasses) of water at room temperature (20 deg celsius) and 2 parts (glasses) of boiling water (100 deg celsius). This gives you (100+100+20)/3 = 220 / 3 = 73 deg celsius. Worked for me. Also nice to teach kids math and physics :-)

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admin February 12, 2013 at 9:18 PM

Christian, thanks for sharing! That’s actually a GREAT IDEA! :D

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zako11 February 13, 2013 at 10:06 AM

its not working :( ive been trying for hours -legs not loosening one bit- dont have a thermometer but tried the 1 cup room temp water, 2 cups boiling method but it still wont work :( looks like ill have to get boba, royal guard pack on ebay- not glued

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Ben February 13, 2013 at 10:25 AM

hi,

your explanation is flawed.

The solvent would have long ago evaporated so dissolving it in water is not what is happening here!
Basically all you have done is partially melted the plastic at the joint, which as you mentioned is slightly more ‘brittle’ than the rest. a higher temperature at a shorter soaking time may also work.
Basically heating the joint up does the same as the solvent did in the first place allowing you to separate them.

Ben

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admin February 13, 2013 at 9:50 PM

Hm… that’s an interesting explanation. It makes sense though. I’m not a chemist, so I was coming from a different angle; just trying different methods to free my minifigs until I found one that worked. Thanks for the insight! ;)

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oscar February 13, 2013 at 10:57 AM

Its really works, Simple tutorial but superb

4 thumbs up

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zako11 February 13, 2013 at 11:27 AM

ok so i FINALLY got it to work, but i had to use a bit more brute force then gentleness

once heated for 5 minutes i got the bluntest thinnest knife i could find and pushed it down the bum area (as shown in the pic you posted) but not too far, i then placed the minifig back (with knife still down butt)in the water for a further minute adding a bit more boiling water (just a tad) near the minifig (oh and i didnt use a strainer, i gave up on using one hours ago). took it out and pushed the knife down further- after another minute the fig popped off. it did require quite a bit more than “gentle”-ness to push the knife down the minifig butt but it finished off intact and now i have a classic Boba (with slightly weird legs) to go with my classic Jango :)
but thats the last time i buy a magnet set- much too faffy.

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admin February 13, 2013 at 9:54 PM

Zako, I would really recommend getting a thermometer. They are super cheap and you could have saved yourself from all this trial and error. Especially if you ever decide to get more minifig magnets. ;)

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THP February 25, 2013 at 4:14 PM

THANK YOU! I just had to gently pry it apart.

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bonnie soe February 27, 2013 at 9:44 AM

It’s work! Thanks to admin. Bonnie fr Indonesia :)

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admin February 27, 2013 at 12:41 PM

Bonnie, I’m glad it worked for you too. Have fun with your minifigs! :)

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Denise March 12, 2013 at 12:48 PM

I have just deglued 6 lego figures using your tutorial, I now have 2 happy boys! Thank you very much

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admin March 14, 2013 at 10:40 AM

Denise, you are welcome! I’m glad your boys are happy! :)

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ges May 5, 2013 at 10:47 AM

I have been very successful with the method so thanks again for sharing! Has anyone tried the new magnets? I have not seen them in the store yet but they appear different as they now have a different magnet attachment. See the lego store…
http://shop.lego.com/en-US/LEGO-Star-Wars-Boba-Fett-Magnet-850643

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admin May 5, 2013 at 11:41 AM

Ges, I have been curious about the nex magnets myself. There is no LEGO store near me, but I would love to check these out! Maybe pick some up online. At this point I’m not even sure how they are attached or to what.

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Joseph June 3, 2013 at 4:26 PM

Excuse me,

I have not tried this method yet with any LEGO magnet sets. However, I would like to feature these instructions on YouTube. I have a LEGO channel (13hammertime62′s LEGO Set Reviews) that specializes in LEGO set reviews, how-to videos, and current and past LEGO news.

I would like to feature this article in a how-to video for “how to remove glued LEGO magnet minifigures”.

Thank you for your time. I hope to try this method myself.

Joseph (13hammertime62)

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admin June 3, 2013 at 7:19 PM

Joseph, thanks for visiting! Yeah, if you have some of glued magnet minifigs and you would like to remove them, give it a try. If you have any questions just let me know. :)

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Ian June 4, 2013 at 2:03 PM

What about the newer Lego magnets? Can you make a post about removing them, I can’t find anything online about it.

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admin June 4, 2013 at 4:44 PM

Good question. I haven’t seen the new type of magnets at my local stores yet, but I will pick some up as soon as I can and see what they are like. Stay tuned! :)

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Beata June 6, 2013 at 1:16 PM

It’s really works.Thank You .Figure was removed from brick ,but I can’t remove legs ,but it is enough for my son.Thank You

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admin June 6, 2013 at 1:43 PM

Beata, you are welcome. ;)

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